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Jan 19, 2013 7:00am PST
vote to let the debt ceiling go up. >> okay. so i should not see this as we say in the black church, a "come to jesus" moment, but in washington they say we are outmanned on this, so we will have to give the president his way, because the wind of public opinion is at his back, and inste instead, just lining up additional opposition. >> that is the way i see it, and i could be wrong, but i don't think that i am. >> i suspect you aren't. well, let me ask you about that, because one of the things that the president has said about you is that you are one of the few members of the house of representatives that when you speak, regardless of the partisan identification and geography, people listen to what you have to say. is that still true in this deeply divided house? >> well, i would say i agree with the president that they hear what i say, and i'm not too sure they always listen. the house is very divided. i don't think it is divided so much as partisan lines as they are along ideological lines. there are a lot of republicans that i talk to who would love to see some movement on a lot of
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